Thursday, December 18, 2008

Beneficiaries are not entitled to In Work payment

The title of this post seems to be a statement that goes without saying. Yet the Child Poverty Action Group has fought a protracted battle with the government to have this overturned because it 'discriminates against the children of beneficiaries'. They want people who do not work to receive an in-work tax credit.

I am very pleased and relieved that the ruling has gone against the CPAG. So is the Minister of Social Development. Her Associate Minister, Tariana Turia, will not be. The Maori Party publicly backed the CPAG action.

These are my earlier arguments against those of the CPAG;

If the CPAG win, essentially we will see an increase in benefit levels. An increase in benefit levels leads to an increase in the number of people going on or staying on benefits. CPAG want a short term gain and refuse to see the long term cost which cannot be in the best interests of children.

There is no guarantee the money reaches the children anyway.

And, most obviously, the incentive effect of the In-Work payment will be nullified if it is extended to non-working families.

The Greens and the Maori Party are supporting the CPAG.

Who is going to win? We have seen the Ministry of Social Development forced to settle out of court previously for discriminating against a single male parent who had full custody of a child (the mother had full custody of the other child/ren) by not allowing him to be on the DPB. But in this case, should the government lose, there would be a significant financial impact. Around $3-400 million more would be paid to parents on benefits. (From the beneficiaries point of view that's about a 14 percent pay rise.)

Beneficiaries already receive family support for each child. It varies according to age and ranges from $57 to $95 per week. Payments increased in April 2005 and April 2007. I wonder if I could take a case to the Human Rights Tribunal claiming discrimination because I do not receive these payments?

Or, more to the point, perhaps I should try discrimination on the grounds that I do not receive the In Work tax credit. The government has set arbitrary conditions on who receives them. The one that excludes me is an income test. The one that excludes beneficiaries is a work test. If the CPAG can get the work test removed perhaps I can get the income test removed.

UPDATE: A couple of months back I put out a media release about the CPAG being "at loggerheads with the OECD" on the matter of what strategy is most effective in reducing child poverty. I was pleased to read in the Dominion Post this morning that the government will be calling two representatives from the OECD as witnesses in its defence against the CPAG.


Anonymous said...

Fucking bluding beneficiaries are not entitled to any fucking thing whatsoever.

OK. one vial of barbiturates. That's it.

Didn't you listen to the news. Do you have 100 BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS

The economic maths of NZ this year really really simple:


pick two. cancel the third.

Most likely, next year will be the same: of the two remaining, pick one. And the year after that.
THen we get to decide between the police, the army, and parliament.

beneficiaries are entitled to NOTHING

Anonymous said...

I certainly think that restrictions on more money for producing more kids while on benefits should be introduced immediately. I am sure it would reduce the 4000 odd babies being born to DPB recipients each year to a few hundred. Even moronic beneficiaties know how babies are made.

Brian Smaller

Anonymous said...

Any kids born to people already receiving the DPB should get the normal stuff all kids get - health, education etc etc. Just that there should be no actual cash for the mothers. You earn money by working, not breeding.

Brian Smaller

Anonymous said...

Any kids born to people already receiving the DPB

should get nothing.

and their parents shouldn't even get the DBP.

Did anyone watch, listen, or read the news yesterday?

Can anyone explain how NZ can afford this socialism any more?