Sunday, April 10, 2011

Susan St John - whiny, one-eyed economics

From today's NZ Herald;
Bernard Hickey's column last week elicited this response from Susan St John, associate professor of economics at the University of Auckland business school.

Bernard Hickey says dropping "middle-class welfare" such as Working for Families would be the fastest way to reduce the budget deficit.

His analysis displays no understanding of family economics at all.

Unfortunately, the antipathy to Working for Families is now widespread and he helps smooth the path for the Government to slash this programme.

But Working for Families tax credits simply adjusts tax to take account of family size and to share the costs of raising the next generation.

In Australia, one-child families, including those on benefits, receive maximum assistance of A$10,200 ($13,000) if there is a baby bonus paid, A$8815 for a child aged 1-4 and A$7738 for a child aged 5-13.

In New Zealand, if this one-child family is on a benefit the most they can get from Working for Families is $4472. A family defined as "working" qualifies for the In Work Tax Credit, but they can only get the full entitlement of $7592 if their total income is less than $36,868.

Contrast these with the Australian figures when our dollar is only worth about 75 per cent of Australian currency.

If we do away with the meagre Working for Families tax credits, how will we stop the exodus of our young struggling families to Australia?


And if we retain Working For Families which, remember, people somehow managed without before they were bribed by Labour in 2005, how do we stop the exodus of childless young to Australia and further afield?

I have two children. When we decided to have a family we didn't expect any financial help to do so. People similar to me are also leaving for Australia. They don't immigrate looking for handouts. They immigrate looking for better incomes from work and less whining from Susan St John types.

I am so sick of the hand-out mentality, the we're-raising-the-next-generation-of New Zealanders crap. How the hell do people know if they are raising the next-generation-of-New Zealanders when so many will live and contribute elsewhere. Thanks to the continuing screwing over advanced by socialists.

2 comments:

Anonymous said...

His analysis displays no understanding of family economics at all.


More to the point, it displays no understanding of basic mathematics let alone economics.

We are borrowing 20 BILLION dollars this year.
More next year. More the year after.

That is enough to pay for
- the entire benefit system AND
- half of the entire health system.

or the entire education system AND
every other bit of government except health, benefits to the under-65s, and benefits to the over 65s.

The idea that NZ can retain any kind of credit rating is a delusion. We've been saved so far only because we aren't in europe and most analysts mistake us for Australia. Per capita, NZ is now the most indebted and its currency is the most volatile in the entire world

The idea that NZ can continue on anything like its current policies are completely insane.


If we wanted to join australia, they'd only take is if
- we said we wanted no federal funding whatsoever
- we agreed to swap our NZ dollars for Aussie dollars at about 25 aussie cents for every NZ dollar

what is really depressing is that most kiwis are so deluded that they think that would be a very bad bargain

Anonymous said...

Peter
Well said Lindsay.
I'm not too sure what "anonymous" is saying in the 1st half of his comments. The 2nd 1/2 starting with "The idea that NZ.." I can follow and agree with