I listen to a lot of talkback radio because it gives me a feel for where people sit. It's reasonably representative politically. The conversation about the return of Roger Douglas has been substantial over the past week. As you would expect the positions are polarised. But the support is higher than I expected. Sometimes my view of the average intelligence of voters is tarnished by the seeming preponderance of political ignoramuses but this week my faith has been rekindled by the callers who can talk knowledgeably about economic philosophy and are prepared to debate the ideas. What is also needed are a few facts and figures that squash the mindless myths that have grown up around Rogernomics.
Some callers, especially to Willie Jackson, have talked about suicides due to redundancies, the hearts being ripped out of small town New Zealand, with Jackson running the line that Douglas is a 'mongrel'. (The 'mongrel' had the guts to ring in by the way and will appear for a question and answer session some time in April.)
But let's have a look at the claim that Rogernomics caused widespread and devastating unemployment.
Clearly New Zealand was not alone during the early 90s and not the worst-off either in terms of unemployment. None of the other countries experiencing high unemployment had implemented the sorts of economic reforms NZ had. Roger Kerr talks about the effects of 'disinflation' being significant during this period. Why did new monetary policy focus so heavily on controlling inflation? Rampant inflation during the 70s and 80s had a lot to do with the employment slump of the early 90s.
Another caller talked about how New Zealand's GDP per capita tumbled due to Rogernomics. "Rogernomics is why we are now 22nd in the OECD", he said.
We had already fallen from being near the top in the 50s to 18th by 1982.
I don't want this election campaign to be about fighting past battles but ACT must be able to quickly and simply refute the claims made by those who will attack them. Candidates should remember a few statistical facts that can be absorbed and are indisputable.
Without the reforms things would have gotten a lot worse. With them New Zealand's recovery was faster. What a shame Douglas never got the chance to finish the job. What a shame he never got his flat tax in. What a shame Labour have managed to undo much of the achievement by ramping up government spending and regulation.
And isn't it great to be having some real debate between left and right economic theory, debate about the future of the country, instead of a personality contest between Helen Clark and John Key?
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The only mongrel is Willie Jackson himself.
It would never be possible to convince the populace of New Zealand that the reforms Sir Roger Douglas inspired and executed are largely responsible for today's prosperity.
Sir Roger has been demonised for so many years that the myths propagated by the left have become reality in the mind of the ignorants (and in NZ we're never short of them).
Only time and history will redeem him.
Yep ...The recorded offence rate rose steadily from 55 per 1,000 population in 1970 to an all-time peak of 132 per 1,000 population in 1992.
& yep ...There was a significant increase in income inequality in New Zealand between 1982 and 1996 (Statistics New Zealand, 1999, New Zealand Now: Incomes).
& yep ... Maori Average Wage and Salary Income, 1982-1996: 1982 - 16,300; 1986 - 15,600; 1991 - 11,200; 1996 - 12,200.
& yep, the 'international trend' argument does indeed hold true, after all what dear Roger did was to expose NZ to those international forces that generated such trends ... again Lindsay, nothing to be proud of here.
"I listen to a lot of talkback radio because it gives me a feel for where people sit. It's reasonably representative politically".
Good lord. NONONONONONO
We will need some re-training of that usually sharp mind of yours next week Lindsay :)
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Ummm. I wonder how my "usually sharp mind" has survived 16 years of talkback? I could have been a genius if only I had listened to National Radio instead.
Mojo, What is your alternative? Subsidising inefficiency and perpetuating privilege?
It certainly aint rewriting history, Lindsay ... I think Brian Easton referred to the doubling of unemployment at that time as 'macro economic incompetence.' But in 'fairness,' those people were outed (once Langes' head came out of the clouds) due to their deceit and systematic and surreptitious changing the NZ 'way of life' and replaced by Bolger and Ruth Richardson, the presumed saviours who again mislead and deceitfully pursued the same agenda.
This was the beginning and continuation of deceit,dishonesty and arrogance in politics ... the time when being elected was a mandate for doing whatsoever one felt like thereafter ... the end of democracy in NZ.
They transitioned Muldoon in to sainthood.
'What is your alternative? Subsidising inefficiency and perpetuating privilege?'
It certainly is not in endeavouring to sanitise the mayhem and carnage caused by pseudo economic idealogues ... and all it took was five years (so his policies really kicked in in probably 1986 - note bien for your data).
.. and the arrogance remains, it appears ACT's policies are Roger's, the pathological grandiosity and absolute lack of insight remains ... I think the fear of lack of recognition/representation has blurred Rodney's vision, that he has underestimated the intensity of the feeling engendered from being systematically and non consensually Rogered ... so I think you've jumped on the wrong horse this time Lindsay.
'Unfulfilled business' indeed ... the only thing keeping him 'upright' will be the viagra.
Mojo, You and I are having different arguments. I've used stats to show that NZ wasn't unique. We couldn't have avoided the high unemployment which grew steadily through both the seventies and eighties) and we have recovered better than others. You have moved on to the question of whether the Labour and then National govts were deceitful and dishonest.
But you still haven't given me a policy alternative.
The social problems you and I agree on began in the 60s and 70s with changing social attitudes and Maori becoming increasingly urbanised. The trends hold up through the developed world. And the only antidote I can see is attempting to rejuvenate the values of individual responsibility and voluntarism. There is no other party (barring Libz) basing it policies on these principles.
If I am being really pessimistic what we have now (in terms of social dysfunction and crime) may be more 'normal' than the post-war period, when NZ prospered and crime was very low. It may be that period was the aberration:-((
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