Today Sean Plunket interviewed an amazing man called Terrance Wallace on Radio Live .
He is a black American raised by a single mother in Chicago, who has sent up a home for disadvantaged Maori and Pasifika young men that provides them with opportunities they would not have in their own communities.
His initiative is called The In Zone project.
Under his scheme these young guys are achieving great results.
It's a reasonably long though deeply interesting interview (Plunket at his best).
But have a listen to what he says about state welfare at 25:15