tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post8715230946871602591..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: 'Memorandums of Understanding' with MaoriLindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-40271482338071503202013-11-06T23:05:22.358+13:002013-11-06T23:05:22.358+13:00Dear Jigsaw
I accept your perspective on Tribalis...Dear Jigsaw<br /><br />I accept your perspective on Tribalism.<br /><br />You said: "To advance your argument you use words and various phrases the meaning of which is hidden."<br /><br />Please state which words and phrases need exposure.<br /><br />You further said: " I understand that this is deliberate in order to attempt to obscure your real intentions-or theirs."<br /><br />Please explain what you think my intentions are.<br /><br />I cannot speak for Maori intentions.<br /><br />sharihydernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-84681556059958566942013-11-04T09:58:58.997+13:002013-11-04T09:58:58.997+13:00Sharihyder,
What you are saying a is a receipe ...Sharihyder,<br /> What you are saying a is a receipe for disaster as a nation. Tribalism is a concept that has been thankfully left behind in the civilised world-where it hasn't you have conflict. Many of these people with tribal connections have only a fraction of maori blood and they seek to indenify with a particular tribe in order to<br />gain an advantage over others.<br />To advance your argument you use words and various phrases the meaning of which is hidden. I understand that this is deliberate in order to attenpt to obscure your real intentions-or theirs. Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-54418199003421280152013-11-02T07:21:35.179+13:002013-11-02T07:21:35.179+13:00Dear Jigsaw
New Zealand's haunting of tribali...Dear Jigsaw<br /><br />New Zealand's haunting of tribalism began in 1840. On paper.<br /><br />Maori, as a nation aka Aotearoa, has come far. They have two political parties. One is viewed as 'extreme'; the other is viewed as 'moderate'.<br /><br />I call this progress in the political arena.<br /><br />What is it that binds Maori?<br /><br />They share the common political goal of 'autonomy'.<br /><br />We, as civilised men, recognise this aspiration.<br /><br />Tribalism is a concept within Maoridom.<br /><br />Within Maoridom lies 2 elements.<br /><br />One is subjective; the other objective.<br /><br />The subjective, more often than not, is the individual Maori.<br /><br />The objective is represented by Tribal Name.<br /><br />Underlying the objective is the notion of Mana.<br /><br />Mana is measured subjectively by degrees of strength.<br /><br />These degrees of strength is what ultimately determines the fate of Maori children.<br /><br />I see this as a step in the right direction.sharihydernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-76136424156541798222013-11-01T19:51:52.712+13:002013-11-01T19:51:52.712+13:00sharihyder : ...we must honour their submissions a...sharihyder : ...we must honour their submissions as they honour ours' - what utter tosh !-this is racist cant and the promoting of tribialism is probably the biggest single error we have made as a nation and one that will certainly<br />come back not just to haunt us but also most certainly to bite us.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-76094526602310265722013-11-01T11:18:35.529+13:002013-11-01T11:18:35.529+13:00A step in the right direction.
If Maori desire to...A step in the right direction.<br /><br />If Maori desire to separate the notion of Mana according to tribal affiliation, we must honour their submissions, as they honour ours.<br /><br />My concern is this: "There are close to 5,000 children in the care of CYF, 441 of those are affiliated to Waikato Tainui".<br /><br />Does this mean the identification process is still in progress?<br /><br />Even so, I call this a step in the right direction.sharihydernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-8390661953875117362013-11-01T06:57:22.650+13:002013-11-01T06:57:22.650+13:00So 9% of CYF charges are identifiable as Tainui. ...So 9% of CYF charges are identifiable as Tainui. <br /><br />I wonder what the percentages for for the other tribes? The tribes total would no doubt be eye watering and fairly show where kiddie abuse is rooted. <br /><br />One suspects that this initiative will be yet another means to shower the 'collective' with copious continuing amounts of my taxes without cornering the real perpetrators.<br /><br />Remind me how much the child murderers and abusers collectives have had in endless 'full and final' settlements to address the problems of 'our peoples'?PM of NZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02095175012980278919noreply@blogger.com