tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post2765705459815726529..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: Adding children to an existing benefit - numbers riseLindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-14618751686271793942014-07-18T00:18:54.394+12:002014-07-18T00:18:54.394+12:00no party will go near stopping welfare, not if the...<i> no party will go near stopping welfare, not if they want to get into power</i><br /><br />but when a party is in power, and don't care about getting re-elected, they can do whatever they like.<br /><br />more to the point: <b>the could do what's right</b><br /><br />Ruth did in 1991. <br /><br />History will show just how badly English & Key did in not following her example in given greatest opportunity to end welfare in NZ - the earthquake and the GFC. <br /><br />Instead, they borrowed 60 billion and flushed all 60 billion on welfare.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-28274008327754381292014-07-17T21:28:26.100+12:002014-07-17T21:28:26.100+12:00no party will go near stopping welfare, not if the...no party will go near stopping welfare, not if they want to get into power. It's just a no-goer, and even National are only tweaking welfare around the edges.<br /><br />None of them have courage at all.<br /><br />SylviaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-56440729531904238672014-07-16T21:47:24.113+12:002014-07-16T21:47:24.113+12:00Susan,
You are correct. I used $92 a week thinki...Susan, <br /><br />You are correct. I used $92 a week thinking about a newborn. But as you point out, not a 'subsequent' newborn.<br /><br />To be honest, I don't think the sum is of paramount importance.<br /><br />The point is, having another child has no seeming negative consequences. There is no reason to avoid or delay a birth in those circumstances.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-82052811099230311002014-07-16T21:24:59.025+12:002014-07-16T21:24:59.025+12:00People need to know they have X amount of entitlem...<i> People need to know they have X amount of entitlement and when it's gone, it's gone.</i><br /><br />Yep. And it's pretty damn clear the optimal solution of this equation is X = 0 Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-19497685338953731902014-07-16T20:52:43.088+12:002014-07-16T20:52:43.088+12:00Lindsay
The WFF payment for the second and subsequ...Lindsay<br />The WFF payment for the second and subsequent chidlren under 13 is only $3328-or $64 a week hardly an incentive to have an extra child?Susan St Johnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-26249663765016959182014-07-16T17:57:32.449+12:002014-07-16T17:57:32.449+12:00Anon, Defining a relationship:
"http://www.w...Anon, Defining a relationship:<br /><br />"http://www.workandincome.govt.nz/individuals/obligations/relationships.html#Whatisarelationship2<br /><br />What is a relationship?<br /><br />How we decide what a relationship is has not changed.<br /><br />For a full description of what a relationship is see our brochure “Relationships and income assistance”.<br /><br />The two main factors MSD look at to decide if you’re in a relationship are:<br /><br /> - financial interdependence<br /> - emotional commitment."<br /><br /><br />Children conceived in loveless, non-committed relationships qualify the parent for more money than those born in opposite circumstances.<br />Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-64837673464908332682014-07-16T17:43:51.141+12:002014-07-16T17:43:51.141+12:00What I want to know is how all these children get ...What I want to know is how all these children get conceived when these mothers are not in a relationship?<br /><br />Because if they were in a relationship, I thought they wouldn't qualify for the benefit. Am I wrong about that??<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-74294195117099217562014-07-16T17:08:58.158+12:002014-07-16T17:08:58.158+12:00"Stopping welfare isn't acceptable with t...<i>"Stopping welfare isn't acceptable with the electorate."</i><br /><br />Stopping all welfare overnight is not just acceptable but its the only sensible welfare policy. Anyone who argues against this just isn't serious.<br /><br />I'm absolutely sure stopping all welfare immediately would be popular enough to get 5% of the list vote. Indeed, it was essential ACT policy when they were polling at 10%. Nowadays, of course, ACT's policy is to spend every sent of welfare that National wants to spend --- more than has ever been spent by any government ever in NZ's history --- and surprisingly ACT is polling at 1%. <br /><br />Stopping all welfare immediately is also, I surmise, the position of a majority of nett taxpayers. Certainly given the choice of continuing welfare as is or stopping it all, stopping would win.<br /><br />The biggest tragedy of NZ's "democracy" is that the rights of the few nett-taxpaying Kiwis are utterly and completely ignored by every political party.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-7970225219911438522014-07-16T10:59:51.262+12:002014-07-16T10:59:51.262+12:00"Stopping welfare isn't acceptable with t..."Stopping welfare isn't acceptable with the electorate."<br /><br />Hmm.... I'm not so sure about that..... :) <br /><br />The voters of today are quite different from even 10 years ago. I have detected quite a hardening in attitudes towards welfare. <br />Heck, the "welfare reforms" package was *very* strongly supported by the public. <br /><br />Paula bennet has the "X factor" - voters genuinely like her and her down-to-earth style. <br /><br />If she announced that as of date "x" there would be no new applications accepted for Sole Parent Support (and at the same date there would be no benefits paid for more than 2 children), <br />I'm sure there would be wide support for that move. <br /> <br />Beneficiaries are people and they have *GOT* to take responsibility for their actions. <br />"You breed it, you feed it". <br />Oh, beneficiaries would grumble big-time about that move but it WOULD work. They *would* change their habits. <br /> thor42noreply@blogger.com