tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post8629726771131345019..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: "No jab, no pay"Lindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-92117525729001059662015-04-15T13:22:27.857+12:002015-04-15T13:22:27.857+12:00Lindsay,
Nope, I don't have a blog and just c...Lindsay,<br /><br />Nope, I don't have a blog and just comment.<br /><br />JCJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875768024598278750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-48964536073859623202015-04-14T15:25:09.931+12:002015-04-14T15:25:09.931+12:00Actually JC I meant, in general. I only know you a...Actually JC I meant, in general. I only know you as 'JC' and wondered whether you blogged or wrote elsewhere (apart from comments which I see on other blogs).Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-28872017407056634492015-04-14T10:27:45.304+12:002015-04-14T10:27:45.304+12:00Lindsay, I can't recall where I first read abo...Lindsay, I can't recall where I first read about this stuff but <br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity<br /><br />gives some indications. Do a search for "threshold" to find the levels of vaccination needed to get an effective herd effect. Depending on the disease it can be as low as 50% or as high as 90%.<br /><br />The citations at the bottom are useful.<br /><br />I'm wrong about the ethnic breakdown.. I must have been looking at one partuclar DHB area where the Maori rate was higher than the European.. nationally the Europeans are in front with honourable exceptions like the Wairarapa.<br /><br />http://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/preventative-health-wellness/immunisation/immunisation-coverage/national-and-dhb-immunisation-data<br /><br />JCJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875768024598278750noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-43510049363509057632015-04-13T20:48:49.698+12:002015-04-13T20:48:49.698+12:00JC, Your comments are consistently helpful - clear...JC, Your comments are consistently helpful - clear, considered and concise. Any clues as to where else I might avail myself of your knowledge-based opinion? <br />email me dandl.mitchell@clear.net.nz if you have a mind to.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-35033883662475070372015-04-13T17:57:16.348+12:002015-04-13T17:57:16.348+12:00Here is another conundrum of sorts.
Under work Pla...Here is another conundrum of sorts.<br />Under work Place & saftey those that work out in the sun are being required to lather on the suncream and record when etc. W & S insist aka the cancer society. How ever the Cawthron Institute in Nelson recently released a study of sewerage and stated clearly that the worst nasty in sewerage was now the principal ingredient in sunscreens. We know the skin and body absorbs many of these things. Who is going to be responsible in say 20 years when peoples livers, joints, kidneys and brains are destroyed by this stuff.<br />Mobie won't be around to be held responsible for stupid enforced decisions.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-82920500087957688632015-04-13T09:39:48.738+12:002015-04-13T09:39:48.738+12:00According to WHO..
" The two public health i...According to WHO..<br /><br />" The two public health interventions that have had the greatest impact on the world's health are clean water and vaccines."<br /><br />To the best of my knowledge this isn't a consensus but an actual proven fact and certainly I can recall the many kids in my childhood who had polio and its virtual eradication now. <br /><br />So I think you start the argument with a safe assertion of the mighty health benefits of immunisation for close to 100% of the population.<br /><br />Flowing on from that is the risk a population is exposed to if vaccination drops below about 80%.. the few are endangering the many and in less tolerant times would have been expelled from society or killed.<br /><br />From memory Maori and Polynesian populations have now got higher immunisation rates than Europeans because of ideological objections or outdated information on the risks of immunisation. To some degree its also related to the fear that your one child is all you have and cant/wont take the tiny risk from the jab and prefer to allow the rest of the immunised population provide the safeguard of "herd immunisation".<br /><br />From a strange but rational POV such people could refuse immunisation for their own child but encourage all others to take the jab to protect their own from disease.<br /><br />Its also rational for the immunised to punish or threaten the non immunised in some ways.<br /><br />JCJChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00875768024598278750noreply@blogger.com