tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post6842308834754114116..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: Any ideas?Lindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-49158184657361197262010-05-09T08:56:19.074+12:002010-05-09T08:56:19.074+12:00http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_f...http://www.corrections.govt.nz/__data/assets/pdf_file/0004/285286/Over-representation-of-Maori-in-the-criminal-justice-system.pdf<br /><br />report suggests Maori are getting further through the judicial system than non Maori due to a variety of features, apprehension rates, lack of legal counsel, implicit police profiling etc etcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-51015366295567255202010-05-05T19:22:40.408+12:002010-05-05T19:22:40.408+12:00What definition is being used to determine who is ...What definition is being used to determine who is Maori? Is it the legal definition of one 16th Maori? <br /><br />To claim that a person is in prison because of their Maori heritage denies their Pakeha heritage and what effect that may have had on them so therefore funding to resolve the the high rate of Maori imprisonment based on race seems illogical and irrational and a knee-jerk reaction. I do not deny that poverty plays a role but the real question is why are those people poor be they Paheka or Maori.<br /><br />GloriaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-29284798396444155592010-05-04T21:27:21.952+12:002010-05-04T21:27:21.952+12:00increasingly higher per 10,000 population imprison...<i> increasingly higher per 10,000 population imprisonment rate than non-Maori as Maori are drawing from a much smaller population base.</i><br /><br />For what it's worth, <b>not necessarily</b> because Maori are increasing --- both absolutely, and relatively as a proportion of NZ's total population. <br /><br />The question is: is the increase of prison population as a %age greater than the increase of maori as a %age. I'd guess, actually, that the answer is no. <br /><br />To do this properly, don't fuck about with ratios and %ages. Get the raw numbers and work from there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-64528868071932264102010-05-04T21:10:06.053+12:002010-05-04T21:10:06.053+12:00What the official stats try to sweep under the car...What the official stats try to sweep under the carpet, is the maori make up an even higher proportion of the more serious crimes, especialy those involving violence.<br /><br />The proportions by offence type make for grim reading.Oswald Bastablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11828229103486326473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-66495992062641386872010-05-04T19:50:55.065+12:002010-05-04T19:50:55.065+12:00Mojo, Thoughtful, as always. Thanks.Mojo, Thoughtful, as always. Thanks.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-87180932873863292252010-05-04T17:42:16.819+12:002010-05-04T17:42:16.819+12:00Lewis
With the higher prison population, more abso...Lewis<br />With the higher prison population, more absolute numbers of Maori would require an increasingly higher per 10,000 population imprisonment rate than non-Maori as Maori are drawing from a much smaller population base.<br /><br />So now you have made me think about the math, to maintain a 50 percent ratio in a growing prison population Maori have to be imprisoned at an increasing rate when compared to non-Maori.<br /><br />So what I thought was a "good thing" actually isn't.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-87559971721253263412010-05-04T17:21:54.493+12:002010-05-04T17:21:54.493+12:00Not 'diversion,' Lindsay?
Eons ago there w...Not 'diversion,' Lindsay?<br />Eons ago there were very few maori in alternative 'reform' services ... like psychiatric institutions, addiction services, prescribed social services, 'home detentions' and probation or organisation-supervised community work (as overcrowding in our prisons manifested), or perhaps the 'sleight of hand' introduced two thirds remission - nope, the latter would result in greater occupancy rate as per hospitals so, perhaps, demograhics as well. The number (ratio of maori to NZ euros.)always began to equalise with age( I think it could have been c. 48yrs), so perhaps an artefact of an ageing population.<br />Certainly not a function of greater educational achievement, perhaps simply 'diversion,' and an under resourced police force, so that lesser, albeit imprisonable offences are prosecuted less?mojohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18400094599778512902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-39414291756012449782010-05-04T15:57:26.070+12:002010-05-04T15:57:26.070+12:00We're putting more people in jail - hence abso...We're putting more people in jail - hence absolute numbers of Maori in prison have increased, but proportionally more non-Maori are going to jail?Lewis Holdenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14732618881212335191noreply@blogger.com