tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post6259697132729657062..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: Correlation between welfare and poor outcomesLindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-30262510382542282582015-12-13T08:46:03.910+13:002015-12-13T08:46:03.910+13:00Yes, Even if we correct for population differences...Yes, Even if we correct for population differences Maori 19% / Pacifica 9%, // We have Maori at over twice the level of extreme risk as Pacifica, and three times the level of European. Similar ratios follow through to high risk.<br />That is staggering. I see risk as assessed as association to corrections / education/ and mental health services. paul scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15675247055484136242noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-35104478456852659952015-12-11T11:56:50.775+13:002015-12-11T11:56:50.775+13:00Well, I'm damn sure they are more committed to...Well, I'm damn sure they are more committed to marriage than most Progressives who openly scorn the institution as they scorn most traditional Western social tenets.<br /><br />Most well off middle class urban liberals have no problem at all with trendy co-habitation and raising their children in bastardry. <br /><br />Then they complain because they lower echelons of society emulate their behaviour and then call on the state to support the families they have no ability to support themselves because the traditional framework for doing so is not in place.<br /><br />Its why I don't have much time for those irrational types who call themselves fiscal conservatives / social liberals. The two ideologies are completely incompatible.<br /><br />Your own excellent research seems to back up this view.Redbaiterhttp://truebluenz.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-63424327268455252772015-12-11T08:20:10.918+13:002015-12-11T08:20:10.918+13:00Conservatives do not have a monopoly on commitment...Conservatives do not have a monopoly on commitment to marriage and work ethic.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-58588744122837060852015-12-10T21:42:25.060+13:002015-12-10T21:42:25.060+13:00"Strong intact families, strong work ethic an..."Strong intact families, strong work ethic and religious values."<br /><br />Oh, Conservatism?<br /><br />As advocated by those unenlightened bastards who value this country's Judeo-Christian heritage.<br /><br />Those retrograde bastards who seek to protect marriage and save it from further erosion.<br /><br />Those lunatic bastards who seek to have children raised by their parents and not the public school system.<br /><br />Those anti-freedom bastards who seek to diminish the influence of drug and alcohol pushers and a decaying entertainment sector upon their children.<br /><br />Can't be them Lindsay, they all died out with the dinosaurs.Redbaiterhttp://truebluenz.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-64561303420918699742015-12-10T15:15:49.793+13:002015-12-10T15:15:49.793+13:00Hi Lindsay
Your generalisations are sound.Hi Lindsay<br /><br />Your generalisations are sound.Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-6181875424278011142015-12-10T15:05:21.266+13:002015-12-10T15:05:21.266+13:00Strong intact families, strong work ethic and rel...Strong intact families, strong work ethic and religious values.<br /><br />Generalizing.Lindsay Mitchellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-21348922233314820462015-12-10T14:15:03.861+13:002015-12-10T14:15:03.861+13:00"The Pacific culture has protective factors a..."The Pacific culture has protective factors at work that aren't always present for Maori."<br /><br />Interesting statement.<br /><br />Can we say that these statistics prove that the application of certain "factors" leads to less social disorder/ decline?<br /><br />One would think therefore that it would be important to latch on to what these factors are and promote them among Maori and perhaps even the rest of the population.<br /><br />So what are these factors that are present for Pacifica but not for Maori?Redbaiterhttp://truebluenz.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-58804886428862800512015-12-10T13:36:20.896+13:002015-12-10T13:36:20.896+13:00The people who are against reforming welfare think...The people who are against reforming welfare think that way because to admit that given broadly the same chances in life two people can have vastly different outcomes challenges the whole basis of their political philosophy. Strange when you think about it because these seem to be exactly the same people who claim for humans a common heritage and set of rights and yet support such nonsense as 'co-governance' and 'enhanced democracy' with special rights for Maori. The ability of humans to hold several conflicting ideas at the same time never fails to amaze me.Jigsawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13906156865367357834noreply@blogger.com