tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post1620063364880765840..comments2024-03-04T16:39:30.609+13:00Comments on Lindsay Mitchell: Sally Army report and the Living Wage campaignLindsay Mitchellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04437693272797130833noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-18768618922794973512013-02-18T12:18:38.861+13:002013-02-18T12:18:38.861+13:00I'm pretty sure someone somewhere said: "...I'm pretty sure someone somewhere said: "The government is not caring and compassionate. It cannot replace families and community. The welfare state is unsustainable economically, socially and morally."<br /><br />Whoever it was, nailed it really.<br /><br />Shane Pleasancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06144367923437327037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-21476294212447169532013-02-15T14:54:06.781+13:002013-02-15T14:54:06.781+13:00Brendan took the words out of my mouth. William B...Brendan took the words out of my mouth. William Booth would be turning in his grave.<br /><br />In many ways, this is exactly the opposite message that William Booth took to the streets of London, in inventing his Army of Christian self-helpers, available to everyone, not just people who did right by the Bible every day, and who had the right body odours to be able to participate in Christian prayer. Booth detested that Christian churches had become elitist, and self-righteous, with Churches turning away the very people who were in the same social strata as Jesus Christ himself had been.<br /><br />Jesus Christ was a carpenter. But the Anglican and Roman Catholic churches were turning away even carpenters because they were proles. William Booth opened the Church again to the workers. Historically, the Salvation Army has celebrated the workers.<br /><br />(btw, I am not a Christian).Johnnynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-26135826378687737202013-02-15T14:41:24.188+13:002013-02-15T14:41:24.188+13:00As I recall increasing the price of cigarettes was...As I recall increasing the price of cigarettes was supposed to reduce the demand for cigarettes. As far as I know that has happened to at least some degree. Now if the same people want to increase the price of labour what do you suppose they are expecting to happen to the demand for labour. I guess that as unions don't act for either smokers or the unemployed they are not too fussed. However, maybe the Sallies act for both so they should be worried by the absurdity.<br />Sectare Fidem<br />JeremyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-84739684272016688082013-02-15T08:07:23.429+13:002013-02-15T08:07:23.429+13:00Just remember never to donate money to the Sallies...Just remember never to donate money to the Sallies. Never!Manolonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-65154611922416087242013-02-14T21:14:51.727+13:002013-02-14T21:14:51.727+13:00It's a damn shame about the Sallies.It's a damn shame about the Sallies.Richardhttp://blog.eternalvigilance.me/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-63207539282150291552013-02-14T20:32:33.971+13:002013-02-14T20:32:33.971+13:00The bible is pretty damn clear: the poor will alwa...The bible is pretty damn clear: the poor will always be with you; the employer has the right to pay what he wants to whom he wants; riches are the sign of God's favour. <br /><br />When Christianity really rule the west, the likes of this sally would have had a one way trip to the inquisition.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-45890863055875078142013-02-14T15:16:54.460+13:002013-02-14T15:16:54.460+13:00A lot of Christians have lost sight of the real go...A lot of Christians have lost sight of the real gospel and now preach a social gospel of good works. Roberts may be one. Maybe he needs to re-learn the fact that Salvation, as it should be preached, is nothing to do with food banks and housing.<br /><br />Church help is something that should spring from a Christian heart of compassion, not from raxes.<br /><br />Anyway, who needs Christianity nowadays? We are told its so old fashioned darlings and the state knows what you need.<br /><br />3:16Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-40666096408554817822013-02-14T14:29:33.432+13:002013-02-14T14:29:33.432+13:00What does it really mean to increase taxes? It me...What does it really mean to increase taxes? It means the state uses its exclusive legal mandate to commit violence to extract more money from middle income earners (and it is nothing but a left wing fantasy to think that there are enough 'rich' people to make a significant difference to state revenues). <br /><br />Increased tax rates will almost certainly mean decreased compliance with tax law and therefore even more arrests and imprisonment for non-payment. For many families, that additional tax may mean the difference between properly heating their house or not, so ultimately it becomes a choice between letting the baby freeze or going to prison. <br /><br />And he is advocating all of this in the name of Christ?Kiwiwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507667837257013301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-50636352083331389802013-02-14T11:39:35.925+13:002013-02-14T11:39:35.925+13:00Lindsay
It's appalling that a group of Christ...Lindsay<br /><br />It's appalling that a group of Christians like the Salvation Army, that have such a fine historical track record of caring for the poor through their own means, have been hijacked by hard core socialist leadership who now look to the state to provide.<br /><br />I suspect General Booth would promptly resign his membership were he alive today.Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-19962237.post-73628629504941152542013-02-14T08:50:16.558+13:002013-02-14T08:50:16.558+13:00Matt Nolan has a great post over at TVHE on how an...Matt Nolan has a great post over at TVHE on how an enforced wage floor simply creates a class of people who can't be employed.<br /><br />As for paying the living wage, of course the first implementers are those who pay wages out of other people's money: government and central government:<br /><br />http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10865266Mark Hubbardhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02541153163041831880noreply@blogger.com